Saturday, March 01, 2014

"Maybe the Carnifex ate your baby?"

-Baby Land Raider that is!

OK, I can finally chronicle for you the first (and so far only) game I've been able to play against the new Tryanid codex. You know, the one that's supposed to be worthless due to all the nerfing, gutting and over-zealous power reduction? This was Warfrog's first run with it as well, and we were itching to see what they would do. Warfrog has been playing 'nids since the 2nd edition Codex, and so knows them inside and out, but he wasn't too keen on having to adhere so sternly to the synapse range again. Never-the-less, we threw together what we thought were good 1750 point lists and decided to see what would happen.

I have always wanted to play a classic and fluffy Ultramarines vs. Tyranids game, and the new Space Marine Codex felt like it would lend itself well to this, especially now that the ridiculous "win button" choices have been ether eliminated or had their power reduced in the new 'nids book. Or so the internet would have us non-bug players think.
All quite on the Western Flank, as a Tac Squad splits into two battle squads before deployment.

I must disclaim here that it has been close to a month (February 1st and the wee hours of the 2nd) since this game was played  and I have simply been too extremely busy to post this, so what will follow will really be an over-view explaining the pics more so than giving a detailed play-by-play that I typically give, but still, I think this will be a better "battle-report" than that lame excuse that was in Warhammer Visions a few weeks ago... (and yes, that rant is forthcoming!)

As fate would have it, we rolled 'Purge the Alien' for the mission, and let's face it, is there a better mission to flex the proverbial muscles of a new codex against? Well I set-up first, and I will state now, I will pull no punches against myself here, that this was my biggest tactical blunder of this game. I deployed by stretching my army rather thinly against the length of my deployment zone, and since we were playing long-edge vs. long-edge, this would greatly limit by ability to focus fire on specific units. I guess where I am very used to playing objective games that I have come to instinctively set up like I need to go somewhere.

Sternguard deploy in the "woods". 
 Due to the terrain being unpainted, as well as the bugs, the majority of these pics will be in blank and white. Personally I think these models look great in black and white, and look a lot less like toys and tad bit more "real" if you know what I mean.

The center field, another tac squad has been split into two battle squads. 

I did take the occassional color pic so you can pick certain details. In this next set-up shot you'll notice some green patches which we use as area terrain for "woods". Warfrog and I discussed the pros and cons of this during the game, particularly in regards to true-line-of-sight, as having a physical woods there would greatly inhibit target selection. Regardless, this worked for us, it worked as we know that shooting through it would provide a 5+ cover and that moving through it would require a best-out-of 2d6 roll (except that most of his army ignores this restriction).

Both armies deploy

The bugs battle line
The first round had night-fighting in effect and with two Venomthropes also present ment that the nids had some serious cover saves. I think I might've  killed a few Termigants, but the Tervigon quickly replenished them.

On the Tyranid turn one however, we got to see how the Biovore, along with the barrage rules, work in the new rules. The next pic shows what's left of a 5 man combat squad after feeling the love from that attack. We were both impressed with this, and it's been a long time since either of us have seen these kind of results from the Biovore (probably not since early 3rd ed?). The new spore mines are a bit of a pain to have to deal with as well.

"Hey kids, do you like balloons?"
Most of my army stayed still, to maximize fire power. However, my thin deployment strategy was hampering my army's ability to concentrate fire, and those Venomthropes were making my efforts to clear out the little bugs very difficult. I did manage to take a wound off of the Hive Tyrant though, and put a few on the Carnifex brood.
Rolling up, albeit reluctantly...
On Turn 2 the Legion of the Damned arrived, however they scattered very far away from their target. I was still within range of the Venonthrope I wanted dead, and with their Ignores Cover bolters they eliminated him quite spectacularly giving me the First Blood Secondary Objective. The Hivemind wasn't pleased with this new nuisance.

"You're Legion of the Damned like candles watch them burn
Burning in the light you'll burn again tonight"
So far I was pleased with the new rules for the LotD.

Now, I was really putting some precious Faberge Eggs into my proverbial Easter Basket, and I really wanted to get them into combat. So, I jumped the Combat Squad with Chaplin Cassius out of the Land Raider and put them into the ruins. The only reason to do that was to slow down the inevitable Tyranid assault, as all the stormshields in this unit made the cover irrelevant. So they jumped out and missed almost every shot that they fired. And, despite those cute combat doctrine tokens I made awhile back, I still manged to forget to reroll my misses with this unit!
"Hi there,"
The Hive Tyrant moved up, it looked like we were going to have an epic showdown, until the Carnifex Brood walked up with their pair of twin-linked devourers...

Ow.
Blasting the whole unit away and in conjunction with the Hive Tyrant's Psychic Scream leaving only the Chaplin left with a single wound!

Of course the Hive Tyrant charged Chaplin Cassius, and I got to discover just how badly nerfed the Crozius Arcanum has become since the last time I ever used one. Needless to say, it was a rather disappointing showing for this guy's first game, but sometimes the dice gods say "NO" and choose instead to feed a Hive Tryant. The Warlord Secondary Objective goes to the Nids. Oh, and the Hive Tyrant regenerated the one wound I have given around this time too.

On the next turn, I backed up the Land Raider as I was too close to make use of my full fire power. I believe however that all I accomplished was giving a Carnifex another wound, but not enough to eliminate one from the game.
"We shall know no fear, we shall know no fear, weshallknownofear, WESHALLKNOWNOFEAR!!!" 
The Hive Mind chose to pig-pile the LotD with about 30 Termigants, with the Tervigon producing another squad to back it up in case the LotD managed to prevail. They did win the combat, but being within synapse range prevented the 'gaunts from doing anything put piling in deeper. (Suddenly, I missed the 5th ed "fearless saves" rule! LOL).
The squad of 10 was slowly being whittled down.
The Carnifex Brood caught the Land Raider, and blew it up. Amazingly, the resulting explosion killed the wounded one.
Imagine lots of smoke, fire and Land Raider bits in that crater.
The hive tyrant paid a visit to the far left combat squads, both of which had been horrible reduced by biovore attacks.
A heroic showdown, 
My Sternguard had spent the whole game so far in the cover of a woods with the Librarian, mostly tearing up a squad of Hiveguard, but when things finely got within range of his psychic powers, I rolled a double-6, and immediately wounded the Librarian! I assumed he was thoroughly pissed off for loosing his Warlord status, as when I activated him, he didn't want to cooperate! LOL!

"Screw you, I'm not playing!"

Meanwhile, the melee continues in a whirlwind of bug parts and black armor.
In a suicidal effort I had a combat squad dash out from cover and wipe out a Termigant brood.
And I even remembered my Combat Doctrine this time!
And suddenly, the defense collapses, and the Legion of the Damned's invulnerable 3+ armor save fails, bringing an end to their incursion. On the other side of the table, the Sternguard also collapsed to the swarm, as well as the Librarian, who managed to live long enough to fight two Close Combat rounds before dying. In his last melee, he decided to actually halfheartedly fight and kill a gaunt, but jeez, what a waste of points he was in this game!
"Now he's standing on his last step, he thought oblivion well it beckons us all"
Well, the Librarian fell, and the Hive Tyrant took the Whirlwind as a consolation prize, which he spent the last round dismantling it.
"My rape-wig doesn't look right on this tank..."
So I was completely tabled by the close of Turn 6. Warfrog of course, still thinks his new Codex is weak, to which I half-jokingly replied that it was because it took him 6 rounds to table me vs. the traditional 3 rounds. BTW, I think the last time I was tabled was also by Warfrog and with a totally different army  Regardless of the tabling we tallied up the VPs just to see how much I gave him: Nids 13, Ultras 3.
Eeew.

So, what did I learn from this game?


  • Tighten up my deployment, regardless of mission, while playing against the bugz. Otherwise their strength in numbers will reduce my ability to remove units. 
  • I need to play with Chaplin Cassius and his Combat Squad a bit more to really figure out what I am doing with him. Maybe leave him in the Land Raider until I want to assault? 
  • Perhaps double up on my whirlwinds or take a Devastator Squad. 
  • Not sure what I would do different with the Librarian, as it made sense to stick him where I did, it's just that the powers I pulled had such short range that his effectiveness was pretty much null. Maybe put him into the Combat squad as well? 
  • The Venomthropes, when used like this, are amazing. They need to be a high target priority and early in the game too. 
  • Carnifexes rock again, especially kitted up with two sets of twin-linked devourers.
  • Psychic Scream and it's soul-sucking power can be brutal if the dice are in the 'nids favor. 
  • My dice sometimes really hate me. (In fact I switched sets after the first round, and only got slightly better results). 

Fun game, and I was more impressed with the new Tryanid Codex than I thought I would be, at least this particular army build anyway. I'm sure we'll play again with other builds soon.


9 comments:

Da Masta Cheef said...

(Suddenly, I missed the 5th ed "fearless saves" rule! LOL).

We can use that next time you play your Orks, if that makes you feel better...

neverness said...

I knew that was troll-bait when I typed it! LOL. I was kidding of course, that was the stupidest rule in 5th edition.

But hey, I'll remind you if you want to bring it back when YOU play your orks next as well...;)

Edwin said...

I am still not sold on the idea of the carnifex brood. That 450 point squad will shoot people to death at 18 inches, but at any distance, you are out of luck. They have to walk across the board and dedicated fire will kill them as they only have 4 wounds. The exocrine is cheaper, has longer range, better AP, more wounds, and a better bs if standing still. The flyrant is safer, easier to get in range, cheaper, synapse, psyker and his slot isn't as crowded. The only benefit the fexes have is they can be taken in 3s. I think the big saving grace of nids is keeping things cheap

neverness said...

Edwin, You need to look at the nids as one big organism, otherwise you'll fail. Synergy is still at thing, for example: The venomthropes must be present to provide those cover saves, which for the most part invalidates your primary concern, assuming you can keep that bloody thing alive. Dedicated fire will kill most anything if done right,and what firepower is devoted to taking down the Carnies will not be focused on the little things chittering towards your lines... Not sure why you brought up the flyrant, he's not a heavy choice?

Also, the biggest reason to take them in a brood of three is because they are fun! Try to keep that in mind when you set out to 'play' a game. :)

Edwin said...

The flyrant i brought up because they usually get twin linked devours for loadout. The gripe about the the fex brood is just point cost. I feel nids can spread points out better then anyone. That 450 point cost brood is just too much for my liking. I hate running 300 points of walking hive tyrant unit with 2 guards. It just feels rough having so much in one unit

neverness said...

I can see your point there. Personally I think the Hive Tyrant's versatility is quite quite appealing. I've got some cool ideas for the one I own...

Kushial said...

When fighting Nids, you need flamers in your tactical squads to think out those little gibblies. Sternguard wounding on two pluses are great for the big monsters. You need a thunderfire too. Heavy four small templates and if you pick the right shot, the unit hit is moving as if in difficult terrain to slow them down some.

Edwin said...

I am not so sure about that now. My little bugs are terrible are holding people up. It always seems like my squads if little guys play the mission better the fight. You have to pod in those stern guard now. There are just to many marine killers in the new book. Exocrine, mawlocs, flyrants, zoanthropes just rock those guys.you lay the hurt on one mc and then the pain comes. I think the new book is going to need new strategies to fight it. To bring something specifically to kill certain units may not be the way to go with just how cheap everything is now. An expensive base mc is 170 and it has 5 wounds, 3+ save and a 7 shot plasma gun or a large blast plasma that doesn't get hot.

War Frog said...

I believe the results of the dakka fex brood speak volumes here. Neverness has been playing since rogue trader, so its not like he smells like a baby seal. Alone the fex brood is easy to write off as over costed. However when shrouded, supported with feel no pain and run/shoot they draw a lot of fire and survive. With an 18" range plus 6 inch move + d6 run gives a huge threat range and in most scenarios will allow them to wreck face in the first round. I was able to present more targets than Neverness could deal with. Also chasing AP2 is a mistake Tyranids are a massed fire army 36 re-rollable str6 shots gets the job done in nearly all situations.